Comments on: Firefox: Still Saving the Web! http://bethesignal.org/blog/2007/06/17/firefox-still-saving-the-web/ where we're going, we don't need roads... Sat, 28 Jan 2012 02:14:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Tom http://bethesignal.org/blog/2007/06/17/firefox-still-saving-the-web/#comment-1780 Tom Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:54:13 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/06/17/firefox-still-saving-the-web/#comment-1780 Hey, it was a joke to developers. Of course, the “enemy” of mac developers is Microsoft. This graph was to innocently show that M$ would not be the target. Hey, it was a joke to developers. Of course, the “enemy” of mac developers is Microsoft. This graph was to innocently show that M$ would not be the target.

]]> By: Louise http://bethesignal.org/blog/2007/06/17/firefox-still-saving-the-web/#comment-1768 Louise Mon, 18 Jun 2007 01:40:10 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/06/17/firefox-still-saving-the-web/#comment-1768 It is in fact a very interesting chart. What it says is, that Apple's goal is to convert ALL Linux users to Windows (as Safari doesn't exist for Linux), and THEN convert them to use Safari =) The first part of this seams a bit optimistic, if you ask me =) It is in fact a very interesting chart. What it says is, that Apple’s goal is to convert ALL Linux users to Windows (as Safari doesn’t exist for Linux), and THEN convert them to use Safari =)

The first part of this seams a bit optimistic, if you ask me =)

]]> By: Paul Kim http://bethesignal.org/blog/2007/06/17/firefox-still-saving-the-web/#comment-1765 Paul Kim Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:29:43 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/06/17/firefox-still-saving-the-web/#comment-1765 @mike: it's not a fake. Go to the webcast archive at: http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/d7625zs/event/ and jump to about 1:06 in the presentation to see the slides. @mike: it’s not a fake. Go to the webcast archive at: http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/d7625zs/event/ and jump to about 1:06 in the presentation to see the slides.

]]> By: dave http://bethesignal.org/blog/2007/06/17/firefox-still-saving-the-web/#comment-1761 dave Sun, 17 Jun 2007 19:46:11 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/06/17/firefox-still-saving-the-web/#comment-1761 Actually, John Lilly's follow up is a better reflection of the complexities of the situation: http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/ Actually, John Lilly’s follow up is a better reflection of the complexities of the situation:

http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/16/the-messy-version/

]]> By: Johannes http://bethesignal.org/blog/2007/06/17/firefox-still-saving-the-web/#comment-1759 Johannes Sun, 17 Jun 2007 18:02:44 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/06/17/firefox-still-saving-the-web/#comment-1759 I noticed it too when I watched the WWDC keynote online (<a href="http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/d7625zs/event/" rel="nofollow">you can watch it here</a>). But they didn't forget firefox, they first showed a pie chart of the 'current' situation and than the pie chart of 'the future' (the one you can see in the picture). Here is an article on the reaction from John Lilly, Mozilla's chief operating officer on the safari presentation: http://computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9024941&intsrc=hm_list I noticed it too when I watched the WWDC keynote online (you can watch it here). But they didn’t forget firefox, they first showed a pie chart of the ‘current’ situation and than the pie chart of ‘the future’ (the one you can see in the picture). Here is an article on the reaction from John Lilly, Mozilla’s chief operating officer on the safari presentation: http://computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9024941&intsrc=hm_list

]]> By: Jussi Kukkonen http://bethesignal.org/blog/2007/06/17/firefox-still-saving-the-web/#comment-1756 Jussi Kukkonen Sun, 17 Jun 2007 13:35:06 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/06/17/firefox-still-saving-the-web/#comment-1756 Vlad, W3C doesn't have "official browser stats" (how could they?). You may be thinking W3Schools, and those are bound to be biased (even more so than web statistics usually), as the site is used by web developers or at least wannabe web developers... Vlad, W3C doesn’t have “official browser stats” (how could they?). You may be thinking W3Schools, and those are bound to be biased (even more so than web statistics usually), as the site is used by web developers or at least wannabe web developers…

]]> By: jdub http://bethesignal.org/blog/2007/06/17/firefox-still-saving-the-web/#comment-1752 jdub Sun, 17 Jun 2007 10:55:03 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/06/17/firefox-still-saving-the-web/#comment-1752 <a href="http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/06/17/firefox-still-saving-the-web/#comment-1751" rel="nofollow">dave</a>, I do think that's closer to the truth, but Apple still need to be called on it. The graphs actually animated from the IE/Firefox/Safari/Other slide to the IE/Safari slide, so it wasn't ignorance alone. :-) dave, I do think that’s closer to the truth, but Apple still need to be called on it. The graphs actually animated from the IE/Firefox/Safari/Other slide to the IE/Safari slide, so it wasn’t ignorance alone. :-)

]]> By: dave http://bethesignal.org/blog/2007/06/17/firefox-still-saving-the-web/#comment-1751 dave Sun, 17 Jun 2007 10:03:38 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/06/17/firefox-still-saving-the-web/#comment-1751 I'd take it more as Firefox being utterly ignored and irrelevant to the point being made, rather than as a desire to steal their marketshare or to utterly destroy Firefox (and Opera, Omniweb and all the many browsers listed as simply "Other"). Still a bit rough if you're a Firefox fan, but a rather different conclusion all the same. If you were a glass-half-full type you could be impressed that Firefox even got mentioned. After all there's not really much need for a pie chart just to say "we want to double our 5% share of the browser market". I’d take it more as Firefox being utterly ignored and irrelevant to the point being made, rather than as a desire to steal their marketshare or to utterly destroy Firefox (and Opera, Omniweb and all the many browsers listed as simply “Other”).

Still a bit rough if you’re a Firefox fan, but a rather different conclusion all the same.

If you were a glass-half-full type you could be impressed that Firefox even got mentioned. After all there’s not really much need for a pie chart just to say “we want to double our 5% share of the browser market”.

]]> By: Vlad http://bethesignal.org/blog/2007/06/17/firefox-still-saving-the-web/#comment-1742 Vlad Sun, 17 Jun 2007 02:34:54 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/06/17/firefox-still-saving-the-web/#comment-1742 yes, I saw that in his presentation and was pretty shocked. He even animated how safari takes over all of firefox's slice. Plus, the browser percentage statistics he cites do not evenly closely resemble w3c's official monthly browser stats. Firefox has ~33% market share, not 15%! yes, I saw that in his presentation and was pretty shocked. He even animated how safari takes over all of firefox’s slice. Plus, the browser percentage statistics he cites do not evenly closely resemble w3c’s official monthly browser stats. Firefox has ~33% market share, not 15%!

]]> By: mike http://bethesignal.org/blog/2007/06/17/firefox-still-saving-the-web/#comment-1732 mike Sat, 16 Jun 2007 19:41:54 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/06/17/firefox-still-saving-the-web/#comment-1732 If that is genuine then Apple is delusional. If that is genuine then Apple is delusional.

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