Comments on: Spiderman 3 http://bethesignal.org/blog/2007/05/07/spiderman-3/ where we're going, we don't need roads... Sat, 20 Feb 2010 06:58:05 +1100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Lukas http://bethesignal.org/blog/2007/05/07/spiderman-3/#comment-1031 Lukas Mon, 07 May 2007 15:08:35 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/05/07/spiderman-3/#comment-1031 Jeff, that is exactly how I felt after the film on friday night ... Jeff, that is exactly how I felt after the film on friday night …

]]> By: Nik http://bethesignal.org/blog/2007/05/07/spiderman-3/#comment-1020 Nik Mon, 07 May 2007 06:30:30 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/05/07/spiderman-3/#comment-1020 The only part I can remember enjoying was the cool opening with the recap. Probably the best summary I've seen to start off a movie, but the rest was 90% crying. When I go to something like Spiderman, I expect certain things. I don't expect Action scenes and compelling plot to be a small fraction of the movie. If I wanted to see lots of crying I am sure I could find something else (and the dialogue would probably have been better). The only part I can remember enjoying was the cool opening with the recap. Probably the best summary I’ve seen to start off a movie, but the rest was 90% crying. When I go to something like Spiderman, I expect certain things. I don’t expect Action scenes and compelling plot to be a small fraction of the movie. If I wanted to see lots of crying I am sure I could find something else (and the dialogue would probably have been better).

]]> By: jdub http://bethesignal.org/blog/2007/05/07/spiderman-3/#comment-1019 jdub Mon, 07 May 2007 06:10:00 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/05/07/spiderman-3/#comment-1019 <a href="http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/05/07/spiderman-3/#comment-1018" rel="nofollow">Jesse</a>, YES! We were totally psyched about the idea of an ESB style third chapter, ending with: <ul> <li>an apparent victory against the Sandman, by abusing the power of the black suit</li> <li>the breakdown of Peter Parker's friendships with MJ and Harry</li> <li>Peter realising his selfishness, breaking free of the black suit -- which, having a whole film to itself, would hopefully be better explained than "space goop"</li> <li>the creation of Venom (though this could be done as a flashback in the first act of the fourth chapter)</li> <li>... then seeing the muddy Sandman rising from the sewers in the final 30s!</li> </ul> Then there's a whole film to develop Venom, recover Peter's friendships, witness the return of the Sandman, and finish with the ultimate battle... in which you'd actually care about all of the characters. Jesse, YES! We were totally psyched about the idea of an ESB style third chapter, ending with:

  • an apparent victory against the Sandman, by abusing the power of the black suit
  • the breakdown of Peter Parker’s friendships with MJ and Harry
  • Peter realising his selfishness, breaking free of the black suit — which, having a whole film to itself, would hopefully be better explained than “space goop”
  • the creation of Venom (though this could be done as a flashback in the first act of the fourth chapter)
  • … then seeing the muddy Sandman rising from the sewers in the final 30s!

Then there’s a whole film to develop Venom, recover Peter’s friendships, witness the return of the Sandman, and finish with the ultimate battle… in which you’d actually care about all of the characters.

]]> By: Jesse http://bethesignal.org/blog/2007/05/07/spiderman-3/#comment-1018 Jesse Mon, 07 May 2007 05:56:17 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/05/07/spiderman-3/#comment-1018 My two big beefs with the film: Sandman was totally unnecessary and the Venom storyline seemed like it came from nowhere. Really, what purpose did Sandman serve? My guess is that they wanted someone to help establish the way in which the black costume changed Peter's personality. But what scene with Sandman couldn't have been replaced by a scene with Harry or MJ? And Venom was out of left field. I was wondering how they could do both the black costume story and the Venom origin story in one movie and it turns out the answer is "not very well." If Peter remained in the black costume throughout movie I could have seen this being like Empire Strikes Back. Spider-Man 4 could then be about Venom. Maybe they thought a dark, inconclusive ending would turn off the kid audience? *shrug* My two big beefs with the film: Sandman was totally unnecessary and the Venom storyline seemed like it came from nowhere.

Really, what purpose did Sandman serve? My guess is that they wanted someone to help establish the way in which the black costume changed Peter’s personality. But what scene with Sandman couldn’t have been replaced by a scene with Harry or MJ?

And Venom was out of left field. I was wondering how they could do both the black costume story and the Venom origin story in one movie and it turns out the answer is “not very well.”

If Peter remained in the black costume throughout movie I could have seen this being like Empire Strikes Back. Spider-Man 4 could then be about Venom. Maybe they thought a dark, inconclusive ending would turn off the kid audience? *shrug*

]]> By: Daniel Nixon http://bethesignal.org/blog/2007/05/07/spiderman-3/#comment-1013 Daniel Nixon Mon, 07 May 2007 04:16:26 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/05/07/spiderman-3/#comment-1013 *Spoilers Ahead* So much in this movie made me cringe... Let me list the moments that stuck in my mind. *"Dear God, please kill Spiderman". I have no love for Christianity and this offended even me. What a stupid line. *"Wicked Cool!" Annoying child's dialogue. *The stars and stripes waving in the background upon Spidey's heroic return. Lame... *The Montage where Peter struts sleazily down the street. By this point I was just laughing hysterically at everything in this stupid film. *The Jazz lounge scene. Terrible. *The Butler's speech. Terrible. The movie should probably have been in 2 installments as jdub suggests, but that's not my main problem with it. Even as 2 films it would still suffer from all the same flaws. The first sequel was a good movie! How could Raimi screw up so badly on this one? *Spoilers Ahead*

So much in this movie made me cringe… Let me list the moments that stuck in my mind.

*”Dear God, please kill Spiderman”. I have no love for Christianity and this offended even me. What a stupid line.
*”Wicked Cool!” Annoying child’s dialogue.
*The stars and stripes waving in the background upon Spidey’s heroic return. Lame…
*The Montage where Peter struts sleazily down the street. By this point I was just laughing hysterically at everything in this stupid film.
*The Jazz lounge scene. Terrible.
*The Butler’s speech. Terrible.

The movie should probably have been in 2 installments as jdub suggests, but that’s not my main problem with it. Even as 2 films it would still suffer from all the same flaws. The first sequel was a good movie! How could Raimi screw up so badly on this one?

]]> By: jdub http://bethesignal.org/blog/2007/05/07/spiderman-3/#comment-1012 jdub Mon, 07 May 2007 03:10:28 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/05/07/spiderman-3/#comment-1012 Ha ha. Lord no. Two full-length feature films, perhaps released within a few months of each other, to keep the interest on the boil. Ha ha. Lord no. Two full-length feature films, perhaps released within a few months of each other, to keep the interest on the boil.

]]> By: Andre Pang http://bethesignal.org/blog/2007/05/07/spiderman-3/#comment-1011 Andre Pang Mon, 07 May 2007 03:04:09 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/05/07/spiderman-3/#comment-1011 "It should've been two films" -- like The Grindhouse? :) “It should’ve been two films” — like The Grindhouse? :)

]]> By: John http://bethesignal.org/blog/2007/05/07/spiderman-3/#comment-1010 John Sun, 06 May 2007 23:48:44 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/05/07/spiderman-3/#comment-1010 Spiderman 3 was bad! The story was all over the place, they tried to add too much drama. Spiderman is supposed to be an action movie. ie It should have great stunts, kick-ass CGI and a good story. The CGI was good, there wasnt enough action and the story was bad. Roll on Pirates. Spiderman 3 was bad! The story was all over the place, they tried to add too much drama. Spiderman is supposed to be an action movie. ie It should have great stunts, kick-ass CGI and a good story. The CGI was good, there wasnt enough action and the story was bad.

Roll on Pirates.

]]> By: Toby Smithe http://bethesignal.org/blog/2007/05/07/spiderman-3/#comment-1009 Toby Smithe Sun, 06 May 2007 23:03:19 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/05/07/spiderman-3/#comment-1009 I saw Spiderman 3 on Saturday. I rather enjoyed it, not only because the film, although it had its poorer parts, was fun, but also because I wished I was playing in the orchestra performing the music. It has a wonderful soundtrack :) I saw Spiderman 3 on Saturday. I rather enjoyed it, not only because the film, although it had its poorer parts, was fun, but also because I wished I was playing in the orchestra performing the music. It has a wonderful soundtrack :)

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