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	<title>Comments on: links for 2007-04-13</title>
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	<description>where we&#039;re going, we don&#039;t need roads...</description>
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		<title>By: yosch</title>
		<link>http://bethesignal.org/blog/2007/04/14/links-for-2007-04-13/#comment-995</link>
		<dc:creator>yosch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I certainly agree with what you have said.

There&#039;s a quite a difference between finding a clever way of using the redistributability loophole, extracting the content from what is probably intended as a platform-specific format to get the fonts on another system and creating a new set of cross-distro cross-platform freely redistributable and modifiable open fonts. 

I wasn&#039;t mixing one with the other.

It&#039;s worth pointing out that the redistributability has rather hefty limitations too:

Section 3) b) on the MS Vista EULA
(http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/useterms) says:

&quot;b. Font Components. While the software is running, you may use its fonts to display and print content. You may only 
   Â·   embed fonts in content as permitted by the embedding restrictions in the fonts; and
   Â·   temporarily download them to a printer or other output device to print content.&quot;

IHMO we can do better that going through these hoops to get good fonts. Especially when the upstream website might pull them away like it has happened with the MS &quot;core fonts&quot;. 

Using and supporting free and open typefaces should get users of the free desktop beyond that situation. 

Quite a few web designers would like a change from the limitations of the ms core fonts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I certainly agree with what you have said.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a quite a difference between finding a clever way of using the redistributability loophole, extracting the content from what is probably intended as a platform-specific format to get the fonts on another system and creating a new set of cross-distro cross-platform freely redistributable and modifiable open fonts. </p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t mixing one with the other.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s worth pointing out that the redistributability has rather hefty limitations too:</p>
<p>Section 3) b) on the MS Vista EULA<br />
(<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/useterms" rel="nofollow">http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/useterms</a>) says:</p>
<p>&#8220;b. Font Components. While the software is running, you may use its fonts to display and print content. You may only<br />
   Â·   embed fonts in content as permitted by the embedding restrictions in the fonts; and<br />
   Â·   temporarily download them to a printer or other output device to print content.&#8221;</p>
<p>IHMO we can do better that going through these hoops to get good fonts. Especially when the upstream website might pull them away like it has happened with the MS &#8220;core fonts&#8221;. </p>
<p>Using and supporting free and open typefaces should get users of the free desktop beyond that situation. </p>
<p>Quite a few web designers would like a change from the limitations of the ms core fonts&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jdub</title>
		<link>http://bethesignal.org/blog/2007/04/14/links-for-2007-04-13/#comment-994</link>
		<dc:creator>jdub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve missed the point.

msttcorefonts downloads redistributable fonts, should you want to use them. The original author has found a way to &lt;em&gt;get&lt;/em&gt; Vista fonts without installing Vista, so if the Power Point Viewer is redistributable, it can be added to msttcorefonts.

This has nothing to do with the Free Software Definition, just freely redistributable material.

I use and support Free typefaces too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve missed the point.</p>
<p>msttcorefonts downloads redistributable fonts, should you want to use them. The original author has found a way to <em>get</em> Vista fonts without installing Vista, so if the Power Point Viewer is redistributable, it can be added to msttcorefonts.</p>
<p>This has nothing to do with the Free Software Definition, just freely redistributable material.</p>
<p>I use and support Free typefaces too.</p>
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		<title>By: yosch</title>
		<link>http://bethesignal.org/blog/2007/04/14/links-for-2007-04-13/#comment-993</link>
		<dc:creator>yosch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt the license of the Vista font pack is anywhere near the Free Software Definition. No matter how you manage to get it. No real redistribution or modification.

Why dream of a next msttcorefonts when we already have open fonts? 

See http://www.unifont.org/fontguide/ and  http://scripts.sil.org/OFL_fonts for growing catalogs of quality open fonts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt the license of the Vista font pack is anywhere near the Free Software Definition. No matter how you manage to get it. No real redistribution or modification.</p>
<p>Why dream of a next msttcorefonts when we already have open fonts? </p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.unifont.org/fontguide/" rel="nofollow">http://www.unifont.org/fontguide/</a> and  <a href="http://scripts.sil.org/OFL_fonts" rel="nofollow">http://scripts.sil.org/OFL_fonts</a> for growing catalogs of quality open fonts.</p>
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