Comments on: “Evil” is a bad place to start the healing http://bethesignal.org/blog/2006/07/28/evil-is-a-bad-place-to-start-the-healing/ where we're going, we don't need roads... Sat, 20 Feb 2010 06:58:05 +1100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Paul McGarry http://bethesignal.org/blog/2006/07/28/evil-is-a-bad-place-to-start-the-healing/#comment-424 Paul McGarry Fri, 28 Jul 2006 04:17:15 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2006/07/28/evil-is-a-bad-place-to-start-the-healing/#comment-424 Pushing such subjects away into little corners of their own is no way to handle inflammatory comments like Zaheer's "evil" one. It better for all of us that people learn how to talk constructively with people who have different views rather than leaving them ranting out of sight. Pushing such subjects away into little corners of their own is no way to handle inflammatory comments like Zaheer’s “evil” one.

It better for all of us that people learn how to talk constructively with people who have different views rather than leaving them ranting out of sight.

]]> By: jdub http://bethesignal.org/blog/2006/07/28/evil-is-a-bad-place-to-start-the-healing/#comment-422 jdub Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:28:37 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2006/07/28/evil-is-a-bad-place-to-start-the-healing/#comment-422 <a href="http://perkypants.org/blog/2006/07/28/evil-is-a-bad-place-to-start-the-healing/#comment-419" rel="nofollow">Sergej</a>: Sensitive subjects unrelated to software will always have a place on Planet GNOME because its mission is all about getting to know the people, not just the project. At some stage, we might have to deal with something libelous or approaching "hate crime" -- but we can sort that mess out when we get to it. :-) Sergej: Sensitive subjects unrelated to software will always have a place on Planet GNOME because its mission is all about getting to know the people, not just the project. At some stage, we might have to deal with something libelous or approaching “hate crime” — but we can sort that mess out when we get to it. :-)

]]> By: Peter Lund http://bethesignal.org/blog/2006/07/28/evil-is-a-bad-place-to-start-the-healing/#comment-421 Peter Lund Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:26:38 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2006/07/28/evil-is-a-bad-place-to-start-the-healing/#comment-421 But, doesn't your argument completely rule out the use of the word evil? But, doesn’t your argument completely rule out the use of the word evil?

]]> By: david http://bethesignal.org/blog/2006/07/28/evil-is-a-bad-place-to-start-the-healing/#comment-420 david Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:20:37 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2006/07/28/evil-is-a-bad-place-to-start-the-healing/#comment-420 I should add, if most israelis are against the current actions, where are the mass protests on the streets? There aren't any, so either they support it, or they just don't give a damn. I should add, if most israelis are against the current actions, where are the mass protests on the streets? There aren’t any, so either they support it, or they just don’t give a damn.

]]> By: Sergej http://bethesignal.org/blog/2006/07/28/evil-is-a-bad-place-to-start-the-healing/#comment-419 Sergej Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:17:49 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2006/07/28/evil-is-a-bad-place-to-start-the-healing/#comment-419 I do agree that freedom of speech is important on an aggregator such as Planet GNOME. BUT: Planet GNOME is a window to the community. Bringing up sensitive subjects such as this one only serves to create animosity between developers and supporters. If it were up to me, I'd ban almost all politics on Planet GNOME, just because such debates can only do harm to the community, and is utterly useless. At least bickering over Mono can lead to actual important decisions being made... I do agree that freedom of speech is important on an aggregator such as Planet GNOME.

BUT:

Planet GNOME is a window to the community. Bringing up sensitive subjects such as this one only serves to create animosity between developers and supporters.
If it were up to me, I’d ban almost all politics on Planet GNOME, just because such debates can only do harm to the community, and is utterly useless.
At least bickering over Mono can lead to actual important decisions being made…

]]> By: david http://bethesignal.org/blog/2006/07/28/evil-is-a-bad-place-to-start-the-healing/#comment-418 david Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:13:31 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2006/07/28/evil-is-a-bad-place-to-start-the-healing/#comment-418 There is a simple solution though. The US tells Israel STOP or we will cut off your aid and bombs. They don't so Israel can continue doing whatever the hell they want. Yes Hezbolla are evil as well, but that doesn't stop the original statement by Zaheer,being true. There is a simple solution though. The US tells Israel STOP or we will cut off your aid and bombs. They don’t so Israel can continue doing whatever the hell they want. Yes Hezbolla are evil as well, but that doesn’t stop the original statement by Zaheer,being true.

]]> By: alex http://bethesignal.org/blog/2006/07/28/evil-is-a-bad-place-to-start-the-healing/#comment-417 alex Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:59:37 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2006/07/28/evil-is-a-bad-place-to-start-the-healing/#comment-417 david: the majority of israelis are of the opinion that the hizbullah has been doing its best to slaughter innocent israeli civilians and that politely asking the lebanon government to shut down hizbullah is useless. yes, it is horrible to be in south lebanon under israeli bombs. it is also horrible to be in haifa under hizbullah rockets. at the moment, there are more civilian casualties on lebabon side -- but believe me, the hizbullah is actively trying to change that. david: the majority of israelis are of the opinion that the hizbullah has been doing its best to slaughter innocent israeli civilians and that politely asking the lebanon government to shut down hizbullah is useless.

yes, it is horrible to be in south lebanon under israeli bombs. it is also horrible to be in haifa under hizbullah rockets. at the moment, there are more civilian casualties on lebabon side — but believe me, the hizbullah is actively trying to change that.

]]> By: jdub http://bethesignal.org/blog/2006/07/28/evil-is-a-bad-place-to-start-the-healing/#comment-416 jdub Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:50:00 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2006/07/28/evil-is-a-bad-place-to-start-the-healing/#comment-416 It's easy to gather vox pops as evidence of pretty much anything. If we're not ready to accept that there are reasonable people on both sides, then we can't have any confidence that a resolution can be found. I know Israelis and Lebanese on most sides of the debate -- though they all seem to think that "powers outside Lebanon" are most at fault. ;-) It’s easy to gather vox pops as evidence of pretty much anything. If we’re not ready to accept that there are reasonable people on both sides, then we can’t have any confidence that a resolution can be found. I know Israelis and Lebanese on most sides of the debate — though they all seem to think that “powers outside Lebanon” are most at fault. ;-)

]]> By: Steven Harms http://bethesignal.org/blog/2006/07/28/evil-is-a-bad-place-to-start-the-healing/#comment-415 Steven Harms Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:46:36 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2006/07/28/evil-is-a-bad-place-to-start-the-healing/#comment-415 David: with all due respect, you obviously didn't understand the post. It isn't about israel being right or wrong, simply the terminology used and the will to work towards a solution. David: with all due respect, you obviously didn’t understand the post. It isn’t about israel being right or wrong, simply the terminology used and the will to work towards a solution.

]]> By: david http://bethesignal.org/blog/2006/07/28/evil-is-a-bad-place-to-start-the-healing/#comment-414 david Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:40:53 +0000 http://perkypants.org/blog/2006/07/28/evil-is-a-bad-place-to-start-the-healing/#comment-414 A reasonable point, except when you take into account, based off interviews, the majority of israelis seem to support the continued slaughter of innocent civilans, so it is not just the leadership but the whole state of israel A reasonable point, except when you take into account, based off interviews, the majority of israelis seem to support the continued slaughter of innocent civilans, so it is not just the leadership but the whole state of israel

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