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		<title>By: David Newkirk</title>
		<link>http://bethesignal.org/blog/2006/06/01/apt-get-install-vmware-player/#comment-348</link>
		<dc:creator>David Newkirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I answered my own question in that I thought I had sufficient multiverse coverage but didn&#039;t. Thanks for the command-line install, as Adept currently can&#039;t complete it as explained below.

So, more findings:

1. Bring in VMWare Player via the Adept GUI doesn&#039;t work because the VMWare install needs user interaction to OK the VMWare EULA, and the necessary dialog/window doesn&#039;t pop in the Adept UI. This makes the install hang at about 37%. Viewing Details then shows the EULA, seemingly in a terminal, but clicking and TABing around doesn&#039;t do anything in it and the install can&#039;t proceed.

2. If Dapper Drake has already been updated to the -25 kernel level when VMPlayer comes in, VMPlayer won&#039;t work because (at least as of 20060615) the VMPlayer kernel modules are for the -23 level. Uninstalling -25 didn&#039;t make VMPlayer magically come to life (and I had other problems with  a locked package database after bailing out of the hung VMWare install via Adept), so my impatient solution was to entirely reinstall Dapper Drake, this time paying attention to system updates so as to not let the -25 kernel update come down.

Good idea to warn on updating the kernel if the update will disable VMPlayer (and any other known-installed kernel module entities that are kernel-level-dependent).

In my opinion, the VMWare kernel modules should be considered dependencies of the kernel such that the kernel can&#039;t be updated unless the VMPlayer kernel modules are updated as well. I&#039;ll be watching for the -25 level VMWare kernel module update--unless it&#039;s available but I just haven&#039;t yet enabled the right repository. :-)

Thanks,

Dave (david.newkirk@gmail.com)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I answered my own question in that I thought I had sufficient multiverse coverage but didn&#8217;t. Thanks for the command-line install, as Adept currently can&#8217;t complete it as explained below.</p>
<p>So, more findings:</p>
<p>1. Bring in VMWare Player via the Adept GUI doesn&#8217;t work because the VMWare install needs user interaction to OK the VMWare EULA, and the necessary dialog/window doesn&#8217;t pop in the Adept UI. This makes the install hang at about 37%. Viewing Details then shows the EULA, seemingly in a terminal, but clicking and TABing around doesn&#8217;t do anything in it and the install can&#8217;t proceed.</p>
<p>2. If Dapper Drake has already been updated to the -25 kernel level when VMPlayer comes in, VMPlayer won&#8217;t work because (at least as of 20060615) the VMPlayer kernel modules are for the -23 level. Uninstalling -25 didn&#8217;t make VMPlayer magically come to life (and I had other problems with  a locked package database after bailing out of the hung VMWare install via Adept), so my impatient solution was to entirely reinstall Dapper Drake, this time paying attention to system updates so as to not let the -25 kernel update come down.</p>
<p>Good idea to warn on updating the kernel if the update will disable VMPlayer (and any other known-installed kernel module entities that are kernel-level-dependent).</p>
<p>In my opinion, the VMWare kernel modules should be considered dependencies of the kernel such that the kernel can&#8217;t be updated unless the VMPlayer kernel modules are updated as well. I&#8217;ll be watching for the -25 level VMWare kernel module update&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;unless it&#8217;s available but I just haven&#8217;t yet enabled the right repository. <img src='http://bethesignal.org/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Dave (david.newkirk@gmail.com)</p>
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		<title>By: David Newkirk</title>
		<link>http://bethesignal.org/blog/2006/06/01/apt-get-install-vmware-player/#comment-338</link>
		<dc:creator>David Newkirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got every repository listed in the Adept Manage Repositories dialog enabled and the only VMWare-related package I see is xserver-xorg-driver-vmware (installed). The command

sudo apt-get install vmware-player

ultimately returns an

E: Couldn&#039;t find package vmware-player

message. Might that package have been temporarily removed, or can you name me a repository certainly known to contain it?

Thanks,

David Newkirk (david.newkirk@gmail.com)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got every repository listed in the Adept Manage Repositories dialog enabled and the only VMWare-related package I see is xserver-xorg-driver-vmware (installed). The command</p>
<p>sudo apt-get install vmware-player</p>
<p>ultimately returns an</p>
<p>E: Couldn&#8217;t find package vmware-player</p>
<p>message. Might that package have been temporarily removed, or can you name me a repository certainly known to contain it?</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>David Newkirk (david.newkirk@gmail.com)</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Green</title>
		<link>http://bethesignal.org/blog/2006/06/01/apt-get-install-vmware-player/#comment-310</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 15:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to all that got this working.  I just installed vmware-player using apt-get and the process was completely painless, as it should be.

Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to all that got this working.  I just installed vmware-player using apt-get and the process was completely painless, as it should be.</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: jobezone</title>
		<link>http://bethesignal.org/blog/2006/06/01/apt-get-install-vmware-player/#comment-291</link>
		<dc:creator>jobezone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 19:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve thought about what you said (having used hard talk), and indeed it&#039;s a bit too strong, and wasn&#039;t the exact way I wanted to use this word. Instead, I would say &quot;shamelessly using &quot;commercial&quot; word&quot;, which means that, coming from ubuntu developers, which very well know that free software can be commercial, it was like flunking the test on the matter.
As far as solutions, I can think of these: restricted, proprietary, non-free,...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve thought about what you said (having used hard talk), and indeed it&#8217;s a bit too strong, and wasn&#8217;t the exact way I wanted to use this word. Instead, I would say &#8220;shamelessly using &#8220;commercial&#8221; word&#8221;, which means that, coming from ubuntu developers, which very well know that free software can be commercial, it was like flunking the test on the matter.<br />
As far as solutions, I can think of these: restricted, proprietary, non-free,&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandre Rocha Lima e Marcondes</title>
		<link>http://bethesignal.org/blog/2006/06/01/apt-get-install-vmware-player/#comment-289</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexandre Rocha Lima e Marcondes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any plans to deliver VMWare server (which is free to download also) inside .deb packages ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any plans to deliver VMWare server (which is free to download also) inside .deb packages ?</p>
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		<title>By: jdub</title>
		<link>http://bethesignal.org/blog/2006/06/01/apt-get-install-vmware-player/#comment-287</link>
		<dc:creator>jdub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;m not entirely happy with the use of the word &#039;commercial&#039; there either, but I wouldn&#039;t call it &quot;shameful&quot; -- that kind of talk doesn&#039;t really encourage a solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m not entirely happy with the use of the word &#8216;commercial&#8217; there either, but I wouldn&#8217;t call it &#8220;shameful&#8221;&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;that kind of talk doesn&#8217;t really encourage a solution.</p>
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		<title>By: jobezone</title>
		<link>http://bethesignal.org/blog/2006/06/01/apt-get-install-vmware-player/#comment-286</link>
		<dc:creator>jobezone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and congratulations. Other than what I said, ubuntu dapper in my system is pretty smooth working (even though I may switch to debian, or other (perhaps ututo has a new version) for the above reason).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and congratulations. Other than what I said, ubuntu dapper in my system is pretty smooth working (even though I may switch to debian, or other (perhaps ututo has a new version) for the above reason).</p>
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		<title>By: jobezone</title>
		<link>http://bethesignal.org/blog/2006/06/01/apt-get-install-vmware-player/#comment-285</link>
		<dc:creator>jobezone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 11:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s also funny that, in dapper&#039;s release notes, proprietary software is being euphemistically called &quot;commercial&quot; software, even though free software doesn&#039;t exclude it being commercial. Oh, and the checkbox for the mltiverse repository is also called commercial software in gnome-app-install. I guess Sun, Adobe et all must be pretty happy that they are the only ones which can sell linux apps commercially.

More to the point: I think it&#039;s shamefull that you are hiding behind the euphemistic and incorrect wording of &quot;commercial software&quot;, so as to look good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also funny that, in dapper&#8217;s release notes, proprietary software is being euphemistically called &#8220;commercial&#8221; software, even though free software doesn&#8217;t exclude it being commercial. Oh, and the checkbox for the mltiverse repository is also called commercial software in gnome-app-install. I guess Sun, Adobe et all must be pretty happy that they are the only ones which can sell linux apps commercially.</p>
<p>More to the point: I think it&#8217;s shamefull that you are hiding behind the euphemistic and incorrect wording of &#8220;commercial software&#8221;, so as to look good.</p>
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		<title>By: Killerkiwi</title>
		<link>http://bethesignal.org/blog/2006/06/01/apt-get-install-vmware-player/#comment-283</link>
		<dc:creator>Killerkiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 07:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>worked through synaptic though....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>worked through synaptic though&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben G.</title>
		<link>http://bethesignal.org/blog/2006/06/01/apt-get-install-vmware-player/#comment-282</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 07:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m blushing, and that&#039;s not just the kiddie-filter going!  Hey, there&#039;s still a lot of work to do, but thanks so much for the glowing compliments.

Feedback and comments are appreciated!  I&#039;m bgertzfield on Freenode&#039;s #ubuntu-devel channel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m blushing, and that&#8217;s not just the kiddie-filter going!  Hey, there&#8217;s still a lot of work to do, but thanks so much for the glowing compliments.</p>
<p>Feedback and comments are appreciated!  I&#8217;m bgertzfield on Freenode&#8217;s #ubuntu-devel channel.</p>
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